April 3, 2007
Montreal, PQ
List of attendees is attached at Annex 1.
The Chairman welcomed everyone and the agenda for the meeting was accepted as follows:
The minutes of the last NSAC meeting (held in December 2005) were distributed
and accepted with a minor correction that should be made on page 10 of the
French version.
Some concern was expressed that the minutes of the last meeting had not been
mailed out prior to the meeting.
ACTION: Meeting minutes to be included in package of
background/info provided prior to each scheduled meeting.
Tables of allocations and catches for 2005 and 2006/2007 were distributed
along with the profile of access to the northern shrimp by area for 2007. The
tables are attached at Annex 2.
The Chair noted that there may still be inconsistencies in some data and that
the Department is continuing to work on improving the current system.
DFO (Policy / Economic Analysis and Statistics) presented an economic overview of the northern shrimp industry, noting that Canadian shrimp landings have tripled since 1996 and that shrimp exports have greatly increased, especially to the European market, in recent years. However, prices have declined considerably in the last few years due mainly to increased supply and competition from aquaculture shrimp. Industry noted that the landed price presented for Offshore shrimp should be the same for Nova Scotia and Newfoundland.
The Economic Overview of the Northern Shrimp Industry
presentation (Updated version) is attached at Annex 3.
ACTION: DFO (Policy / Economic Analysis and
Statistics) to harmonize its methodology for estimating offshore prices across
DFO regions and circulate an updated version of the economic overview to meeting
participants.
DFO (FAM) provided an overview of DFO policy and the status of the current policy initiative to manage the impact of fishing on sensitive benthic habitats.
DFO is planning consultations for the fall in order to develop a Fisheries Sustainable Development Framework and implement it in 2008. There are many demands for this kind of initiative for the management of fisheries and there are some real deadlines that have to be met. It is very important to consult those who are affected.
The Sensitive Areas presentation is attached at Annex 4.
It was noted that a paper will be presented at the September NAFO meeting on
sensitive areas. This will help us to progress towards the 2008 deadline.
The Chair added that the Department is developing a domestic policy on benthic
habitats and gear impacts.
Industry hopes that DFO continues to work with them to make sure that the data
collected, policies, definitions and historical fishing areas are accurate so
that the Canadian presentation to NAFO correctly outlines what we have to do to
protect sensitive area by September.
The Chair noted that the Seamount closed areas initiative was industry-driven
and was very well received internationally, and that a NSAC Working Group on
closed areas has been established.
The FFAW representative reported that closed areas have been a big issue in the
past few years and although most industry is supportive of such initiatives it
has been difficult to formalize the process and that a consensus to stay out of
Funk Island Deep needs to be formalized. He mentioned that in 3K dragging for
shrimp affects the crab resource and that it’s important to resolve this issue.
The CAPP representative suggested that the industry should be looking to ways
and means and reasons to identify some areas that are good candidates for
closure to move forward in a prudent way. He added that where there is no
science available, or where science does not support a closure we have to have
consensus of industry to move forward. All groups agree that we need to move
forward and on the Funk Island Deep, the offshore industry is prepared to look
at this area as a possible candidate for closure. More discussion is needed to
identify the right area for closure and we need to formalize with all parties to
have the area or part of the area closed. It was announced that the offshore
will soon announce a voluntary closure in the north for coral protection.
The BFC representative added that it is much more difficult to identify areas
for closure in the north as the science is lacking and that DFO should make
funds available for research.
The Chair offered to call a meeting of the NSAC Working Group on Closed Areas if
the industry wishes to move forward. There was general agreement to this.
DFO advised that it would be convening a workshop at the end of May 2007 in Montreal to bring industry and government together to discuss this issue. Several industry members advised that they were interested in attending the workshop.
ACTION: Names of the interested parties to be forwarded to Dave Conley.
Different parties presented their views on eco-labelling, some indicating
support while others questioned programs expressing concern and apprehension.
DFO gave a brief update on the Newfoundland inshore shrimp fishery’s initiative
with respect to certification. In October 2006, the Canadian Northern Prawn
Fishery announced that it was the first shrimp fishery in the Atlantic to engage
with the world's leading independent environmental certification and
eco-labelling programme.
The news release is attached at Annex 5.
It was noted that there is no research program on habitat north of SFA 5 and
that a coherent support plan from DFO is needed.
DFO provided an update on the issue of grate spacing.
The current requirements for 2007 were outlined:
1. 22mm max. - <65’ All SFAs
2. 22mm max. - >100’ SFA7/NRA
3. 28mm max. - >100’ SFA 0-6
At the 2006 NSAC it had been decided to postpone the phase-in of the 22mm
maximum until 2007 allowing for the normal replacement of grates with 28mm with
22mm.
Further discussions were held in December 2006 at the Working Group level and it
was decided to permit the use of the 28mm grate in SFA 0-5 pending receipt of
the results of industry study in 2007.
CAPP reiterated the points made at the December meeting and added that we have
25mm spacings in other areas in the Gulf and in the Scotian shelf. He mentioned
that the offshore fleet uses 22mm in SFA 7 and are prepared to go to 22mm in SFA
6 in the interim to be consistent with inshore fishery. But in areas north of SFA 6 there are
no recent studies. He mentioned that with a smaller spacing, where you have a relative
proportion of large shrimp may have an unacceptable economic effect. They are
prepared to work with DFO and cooperate but until that happens, the reasonable
course of action was to suspend the requirement for 22mm north of SFA 6.
Both CAPP and the Northern Coalition reiterated that they are not prepared to
move to 22mm spacing. They also mentioned that they were not comfortable with
the additional cost of undertaking a study
as the DFO design was more sophisticated than that conducted
for the inshore fishery.
The IFAW representative stated that the inshore fleet has been using 22mm for a
long time and expressed concern that the offshore fleet is still asking to
postpone the move to 22mm.
DFO reported that this issue need to be resolved and it is imperative to find a
way of getting a study done.
The FFAW noted that it was agreed that the grate spacing for SFA 6 would be 22mm
for 2007.
DFO provided a summary report on the Working Group on Conservation and
Compliance.
The Working Group met twice in 2006 in April and in December.
Two issues of note addressed by the Working Group were the permissible spacing
in the Nordmore grates and dockside monitoring requirements. The issue with
respect to grates was dealt with above.
The absence of DMP in the >100’ sector was the subject of some discussion. It is
the only quota fishery in Atlantic Canada that does not have DMP. Industry
representatives of the >100’ fleet presented their view on the issue and noted
their severe economic conditions. Discussion had included the
point that there are no serious allegations or any evidence of there being a
problem, with a suggestion being made that DFO can conduct periodic audits to
satisfy themselves whether a problem actually exists, after which other options
to address any such problem could be considered. The Working Group concluded that
the issue of DMP be set aside for the time being. Industry representatives
pointed out that they do have 100% at sea observer coverage and that is a
significant cost for them.
DFO noted that the Working Group also discussed the issue of cleaning of nets in
closed areas. Procedures/process is being put in place to deal with this issue.
DFO reported that in December 2006 there was some discussion on E-logs.
He reported that the E-logs project has been a success. E-logs were tried on one
vessel and the system worked very well. The system was acceptable to all
parties.
The pilot project was a success but there is concern about the implementation.
This is a DFO issue. There is a Centre of Expertise in Quebec and the issues
around software development and maintenance are beyond what the pilot project
was meant to do.
This project was a success but at this time it is not ready to move to a more
widespread use. The issue is currently being discussed with the Centre of
Expertise.
CAPP reported that they asked the Centre of Expertise for a memo to outlining
their plan for E-logs. The understanding is that the plan is to proceed with
E-logs in the same fashion as was done with VMS. The department would review
suppliers’ products and there may be six that DFO would accept and then industry
may make arrangements to deal with any of the 6 suppliers.
The Chair noted that there is no new science therefore all the TACS have been rolled over in all areas for 2007.
When the Minister announced his decision last year about the 3L fishery, he also said he was stabilizing all access in all areas until 2010. Since TACs have been set, the Department is not entertaining any new access requests.
The FFAW representative noted that he wanted to have a discussion about TACs.
He mentioned that the circumstances have changed and that there are market
opportunities that need to be tapped.
He mentioned that the exploitation rate in the northern shrimp fishery is 12%
but rates elsewhere are much higher – for example, they are 20% in the Gulf of
St. Lawrence.
He feels that the exploitation rate can be increase and that his fleet would be
looking at a 10-15% TAC increase in SFA 6.
It was noted by the Lower North Shore representative, Zone 13 is closed for the
5th consecutive year and that his organization would be submitting a proposal
for a shrimp allocation increase of 500t in SFA6.
The 3K representative mentioned that the fishery is not having any impact on the
biomass and there are lots of market opportunities given decreased catches by
Iceland and Norway. On behalf of the 3K fleet, he supported the request for an
increase.
CAPP noted that the Committee had been informed that there would not be any
changes in TAC levels for 2007.
He noted that if a change is contemplated, the offshore fleet could also use
more shrimp. However, TACs cannot be increased without scientific advice. He
highlighted the need to think of the future. In fact, in SFA 1 there have been
four successful years of recruitment failure. In 3M there are now recruitment
problems and both these stocks are very likely to see TACs decline in 2008.
CAPP suggested that the Committee meet with scientists to discuss this issue
along with risk management and the industry requests for more quotas. He also
indicated that CAPP reserves the option to ask for an increase at a later date.
It was noted that the Nunatsiavut Government did not come to the meeting with a
proposal but noted that it would be requesting 1,500t in Areas 4 and 1,500t in
Area 5.
The NC noted that it would also be reserving the right to submit a proposal for
increase.
The 3K representative expressed the need for another meeting with Science being
present.
DFO Science commented that the Science presentation did not happen because there
was no new science that had been vetted through a RAP process.
He noted that NSAC should be scheduled after the RAP meeting.
The Chair noted that his position remained unchanged, there had been no new
Science advice and as in the past no new TAC increases warranted. However, he
would provide request to Minister for decision. If the Minister agrees to a TAC
increase then another NSAC meeting would be convened to discuss.
The Chair noted that as a result of the Laroque decision, the Science quota has now been eliminated from the shrimp plan. The allocation has now been returned to the offshore fleet from where it was originally sourced. There will not be a Science quota in the next management plan.
DFO noted that there has been a recent change in the NAFO conservation
measures and outlined what it would mean for Canadian vessels fishing in the
NRA.
Industry was asked if they wanted to see any issues that should be addressed
from a C&P perspective. Industry can bring forward any C&P issues to the Working
Group on Conservation and Compliance for next year.
It was noted that the new conditions require labelling and dating of shrimp when
fishing in the NRA in order that inspectors can accurately determine from where
the shrimp originated.
The committee was advised that it is important for any vessel planning to go out
to the NRA to contact NL C&P for a briefing.
DFO (NL) spoke about the issue of enterprise rationalization in the
Newfoundland and Labrador Region.
The Chair noted that a proposal for changing the name from temporary licences to
regular licences was being explored.
The Province of Newfoundland and Labrador support the conversion of these
temporary licences to regular. They have been part of the fishery for 10 years,
they are a major quota holder in the fishery, and employ 3-4,000 people in
Newfoundland.
The LNS representative said that his group supports this change and would also
request that their temporary status be converted to regular.
The province of New Brunswick is in favour of sharing the resource, but noted
that temporary licences are issued when there is surplus. When the resource
declines last-in first-out (LIFO) principle comes into play. It is important to
address how LIFO will be implemented.
The Chair noted that the conversion of temporary to regular would not affect
allocations, i.e., LIFO principles are not being changed. All we are talking
about is a name change so that people can rationalize. The allocation shares are
not being suggested for change at this time.
The Province of Quebec did not favour moving ahead with this initiative as they
have not had the time to study it. It was noted that converting now may
complicate matters later.
The PEI Shrimp Corporation renewed its request that their 1,500t allocation
become permanent. It was also noted that the PEI allocation was never increased
when there were subsequent increases to other provinces.
CAPP made a presentation on behalf of CAPP of the Northern Shrimp Temporary
Access & Allocation Policy. (see Annex 6 for the full presentation)
There was substantial discussion between interests representing the inshore
fleet in favour of conversion of temporary licences to regular and offshore
sector representatives asking for a delay. The issue of LIFO was discussed at
length along with the issue of viability, the definition of viability and the
challenges currently being faced by the different fleets.
The Province of Nova Scotia was not in favour of conversion at this time. Trends
are going down, and expenses are going up. In the Gulf, conversion of temporary
has been put on hold.
BFC stated that the participants from Nunavut also want to put forward the
proposal to convert their allocations to permanent.
The Chair spoke about the proposed initiative to look at the viability of the
offshore shrimp fishery. He informed the committee that there were draft terms
of reference for this initiative. One of the reasons for undertaking this study
is because a study of the economic viability of the inshore fleet sector had
just been completed.
ACTION: The draft terms of reference of the proposed
study would be circulated to the Committee for comments.
The Chair summarized the discussion by noting that all holders of temporary
licences and special allocations requested a conversion to permanent.
Three provinces are concerned with the process of the conversion: Nova Scotia,
Quebec and New Brunswick, while PEI support conversion of temporary to regular
for both inshore and special allocations. Newfoundland supports only conversion
of temporary inshore.
The ones with temporary permits and temporary allocations all support
conversion. The offshore sector does not support it at this time pending an
economic review.
The Chair noted that a first draft of the new management plan has been completed. All NSAC members were asked to provide any comments and/or input by the end of April, at which time the plan would be finalized incorporating the latest decisions.
DFO raised the issue of requests for fishing different licences with
different vessels. DFO had a few issues with this last year. DFO received
last-minute requests that could not be accommodated. In some cases, it is not
possible to do the transfer with only a couple of hours notice. The vessel
cannot be named on two licences at the same time, therefore, if the vessel is
going to be taken out of one licence we need written notification from licence
holders.
It was noted that this situation had also caused a problem in Nunavut. It was
noted that the DFO office tries to accommodate all the requests but under
certain circumstances the late notice causes a big problem.
CAPP requested that, if possible, a notice of vessel change should be sent to
the associations as well, not just the licence holders.
ACTION: A protocol on procedures and process is needed
and will be drafted by the NL region.
Roland Andrews stated that they reviewed the land claims document as it
applies to them. He informed the Committee that there is a process that DFO and
the Nunatsiavut government would have to follow in case there was an increase in
quotas.
He also noted that there are some references in the IFMP to LIA and that they
should be changed to Nunatsiavut government.
ACTION: Change references in new IFMP.
CAPP noted that there is a planned meeting to discuss a new “Assessment
Framework for Northern Shrimp off Labrador and the northeastern coast of
Newfoundland” scheduled for late May 2007.
The intent is to have a traffic light framework for risk assessment and TAC
settings etc. for SFAs 5 and 6. CAPP expressed surprise at the notice of this
meeting. This is a significant issue and he felt that NSAC should have consulted
with and notified well in advance.
CAPP is looking forward to have an opportunity to provide input on this.
The FFAW requested that if there is going to be a science meeting at the end of
May, there is also an opportunity to raise the issue of TAC increases.
The meeting was adjourned by the Chair after thanking all participants.
LIST OF PARTICIPANTS
| Name | Organization | Phone Number |
| Barry Rashotte | DFO | 613-990-0087 |
| Ken Jones | DFO | 613-990-5227 |
| Tony Blanchard | DFO | 709-772-4680 |
| Lewis Clancey | NSDFA | 902-424-0366 |
| Grace Mellano | DFO | 613-990-0128 |
| Thomas Larouche | DFO | 613-993-4160 |
| Paul Nadeau | LNSFA | 418-773-2234 |
| Bob Johnston | PEI Atlantic Shrimp Corp. | 902-367-4896 |
| Tom Dooley | DFA NL | 709-729-0335 |
| Dave MacEwen | PEI Dept. AFA | 902-368-5244 |
| Annie Ferguson | Prov. NB | 506-726-2400 |
| Beverley Sheppard | HG Shrimp Co. | 709-596-8000 |
| Jerry Ward | BFC | 709-726-6328 |
| Roland Andrews | Nuntsiavut Gov’t. | 709-786-7614 |
| Vachon Noel | NOFTA | 709-861-4240 |
| Tom Elliott | Sabri | 709-454-3484 |
| Joe Justus | NWMB | 867-975-7300 |
| Tim Siferd | DFO C&A | 204-984-4509 |
| Keith Pelley | DFO C&A | 867-979-8024 |
| Peter Matthews | Clearway Peche Nordique | 902-634-2692 |
| Christine Penney | Clearwater Atlantic Shrimp | 902-457-2348 |
| Rex Simmonds | Inshore Freezing at Sea Assoc. | 709-895-2816 |
| Jeff Simms | Newfound Resources | 709-579-7676 |
| Brian McNamara | Newfound Resources | 709-579-7676 |
| Michael Eagles | DFO – Halifax | 902-426-7239 |
| Guy Bridger | 3KS Shrimp Chair FFAW | 709-255-4551 |
| Gerard Chidley | 3L Shrimp FFAW | 709-363-2900 |
| David Decker | FFAW / CAW | 709-576-7276 |
| Frank Corbett | DFO NL Region | 709-772-6935 |
| Vincent Dupuis | ACPG Quebec | |
| Brian Shebib | MV. Osprey Ltd. | 902-794-1600 |
| Ulf S. Snarby | MV. Osprey Ltd. | 902-794-1600 |
| Gilbert Linstead | Labrador Shrimp Company | 709-927-5812 |
| Phil Quinlan | Labrador Shrimp Company | 709-754-3913 |
| Rosalind Perry | Northern Coalition | 709-722-4454 |
| Neil Greig | Makivik Corp. | 819-964-2925 |
| Keith Watts | Torngat Fish Producers Cooperative Society Ltd. | 709-896-3992 |
| Bruce Chapman | CAPP | 613-692-8249 |
| Morley Knight | DFO | 709-772-4494 |
| Stefan Romberg | DFO – Iqualuit | 867-979-8002 |
| Sam Stephenson | DFO – C&A | 204-984-0577 |
| Karen Hurst | DFO – C&A | 204-983-5230 |
| Brett Gilchrist | DFO | 613-990-0192 |
| Dave Conley | DFO | 613-991-6122 |
| François Montminy-Munyan | MAPAQ | 418-380-2100 x3770 |